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Relatives at the time told cops that Yaser threatened bodily harm against Sarah for going on a date with a non-Muslim. She failed miserably to convince me, or anyone else who mattered, of her innocence. I think we need to realize that each dollar we spend or don't spend could have a serious impact on our society and our safety.". We really thought she was dead all those years. Its not logical to say we know the truth unless we seen it for ourselves. Patricias professional life included short-lived gigs as a Century 21 real estate agent and an Oldsmobile salesperson. The authorities charged her with two counts of murder. Weak wages. They allege that the North Carolina resident stealthily drove 500 miles to Pennsylvania and killed out of a sense of deadly indignation. I just watched Reasonable Dont on this case. A Pennsylvania woman who went missing more than 30 years ago in a case that stumped authorities who later declared her legally dead has been found living in a nursing home in Puerto Rico. Sadly, those who defend Rorrer do not want to be confused by the truth. It was her father, Yaser Said who committed the crime of killing his two innocent teen daughters. Strands of the accuseds dyed-blond hair at two crime scenes proved it. So we can just pretend that everyone is honest all of the time? According to the Charley Project, a missing persons database named after Charles Brewster Charley Ross, one of the first Americans kidnapped for a ransom in the nations history, Patricia Kopta went missing in June 1992 and was reported missing in November 1992. Look into it. guilty But then again I havent actually SEEN the evidence. A lot of these documentaries feature most of the theories suggested by the cops and prosecution which were most damaging to her case, but not a single person to substantiate Rorrers side, or to challenge their versions. Curiously after this latest test, the 39 hairs removed only 34 were accounted for what became of the absent 4 hairs? I accept there are a couple of remarks which can be seen that way but they are in direct response to those whove been offensive in the first place. I expect she will admit it one day. Patricia And Mark McCloskey Who Waved Guns At BLM Protesters Said The real killer is Rorrer! Another inaccuracy in this is, they state the jury took SIX HOURS to return a verdict, when in fact it took less than TWO HOURS. He took two tests and there was deception detected in BOTH. It took jurors about three hours to convict Said for the deaths of his daughters Amina and Sarah in 2008. Alex Murdaugh found guilty of killing wife, son Lieutenant Christopher Coble and Sergeant Suzanne Pearson would later testify that Patricia cried and apologized to 18-month-old Nicole, telling the baby, Im sorry for doing this to you and lamenting to the officers that she would never see little Nicole again. If in the woods in a rural area, no animal, rodent or insect touched those bodies? Presumably if they thought the evidence was against the states case, thats how theyd present as theres no obvious reason for them to be biased one way or the other. And for you to even ask why documentaries are biased, makes me wonder if you have the ability to determine fact from fiction! She said that shes no fan of Forensic Files and that the show had many misrepresentations about her case and that shed heard ForensicFilesNow.com mixed up some facts as well. Browns downtown Los Angeles office demanding that he grant Patricia Wright clemency. PS Speculative lies is meaningless. Soon after, Kopta lost her job because she was seeing things and her behavior was disruptive, and then she began to walk the streets to spread her message. After a very early failed marriage, the 24-year-old Joann scored a new husband in Andrew Katrinak, 38, whom she met at a club. Patty is my cousin. I had five children to take care of and it was costing me so much money to travel two hours The FBI even included a written report to that effect. This was a horrible and brutal double murder and whoever did it needs to be locked up forever. Patricia Cole, a veteran copy editor whose sharp eye, quick wit and kind heart made her a cherished colleague at NPR and other news outlets, died on Friday at age 46, Unlike most people who stayed on the streets all day, she maintained a neat, attractive appearance, wearing makeup and a dress or skirt each day. And dance instructor William Jarrett couldnt remember whether she attended his dance class at the club the night of Joanns disappearance. At 10:30 p.m., Andrew reported his wife missing. I THINK THEY SHOULD REOPEN THIS CASE AND LOOK AT THE HUSBAND JUST SAYING BUT IN MY HEART AND MIND FROM READING ALL THE NOTES AND STUFF PATRICA IS NOT GUILTY AND THEY NEED TO SET HER FREE. Patricia McCloskey, who menaced the marching crowd with her finger on the trigger of a handgun, pleaded guilty to misdemeanor harassment and was ordered to pay a Yaser Said had been on the FBIs Ten Most Wanted Fugitives list since 2014 in connection with the fatal shootings of his daughters, 18-year-old Amina Said and 17-year-old Sarah Said, on New Years Day 2008. "I couldn't believe it," Blasczyk said of the crime. Yaser Abdel Said, 63, was arrested Wednesday by agents in the small town of Justin, about 36 miles northwest of Dallas, officials said. This woman was obsessed and jealous. And in a piece of salacious testimony, Patricia Rorrers half sister, Sandra Ireland, said that in May 1995, about six months after the murder, their mother, Patricia Chambers, stopped by the house and asked her to hold onto or hide a gun, or both. Any subsequent proof emerging and then revealed in a book or documentary is surely something that should be taken seriously and investigated if necessary. And its argued that it has been and dismissed as insignificant or irrelevant. You murdered your girls," she said. According to court documents, Patricia Owens, the victims mother and Saids former wife, told authorities that her son and Yaser Saids brothers indicated support for the killings and were not cooperative with law enforcement. But her reputation wasnt exactly sleek and shiny. After the guilty verdict was pronounced, the defense learned that a report from a state psychologist was not given to the jury. She didnt kill those two boys and TX knows, but they made too much noise about it, hence this is probably the real reason that Darlie hasnt been put to death 24-25 yrs later. At 6 a.m. on June 24, 1997, police arrested Patricia at her modest house in Linwood, North Carolina, and took her back to Pennsylvania. There are those on this very site who express their disappointment she was not executed. Check out ALL the facts if you feel the need to comment. I would have liked better her being put to death! Testimony from Walter Blalock contradicted Patricias claim that she never had a gun. The couple moved into Andrews sturdy brick house at 740 Front Street in Catasauqua, Pennsylvania. This woman was motivated by an obsession with a man who no longer wanted her. Detective Barry Grube found it odd that Andrew fixed the severed phone line before police examined it in essence tampering with evidence. On a secret recording, Patricia asked Jarrett to vouch for her attendance or she might go to the electric char. Flawed justice: the wrongful conviction of Kerry Baxter Sr. Or to keep it anonymous, click here. Traupman died in 2016. The Free Patricia Rorrer page responds to comments from supporters (How is this even possible that this woman is still in jail?!? She is a D-FW native with a B.A. "You knew how the You are not expressing an opinion but making an assertion or claim of fact: [I] have absolutely no doubt she was railroaded and wrongfully convicted. You are claiming innocence as fact there is no doubt shes innocent. How would an intruder find it? They also found a photo of Patricia taken 11 days before the homicide. Hardly an argument, more a figment of your overconfidence in your opinion. Another thing that stumps me is Joannes supposed good friend who said that Joanne told her she was leaving Andrew. If Patricia had injuries it wouldve only been to her hands and she wasnt questioned right away which is also the reason she took Joanne elsewhere to kill her so her body wouldnt be found for a while and she would have time to return home. Said's defense attorney said he will be filing a notice to appeal. That did amuse me I have to say, but youre way off target there Im more than happy with my state of mind before and after reading any of these comments. The District Attorney got this one right. You seem to have a fragile ego. Unfortunately, most people cant distinguish reality from crackpot nonsense, and theyre only more unlikely to do so, given todays social media. That phone call came in on December 7, 1994. Ive heard she gets to go out to LUNCH and this broad is in prison for murdering her husband Russ Stager? Why wouldnt they let any of her witnesses testify? This response of yours neatly sums up your dogmatic view of her guilt despite so much evidence to the contrary. But thats just some of the ammo on Team Patricias battleship. Let me ask youWhy do most of those who post adverse and hateful comments feel the need to? Thats not proof theyre right but its more likely that you as one person are wrong. Patricia and there are probably many people who still think he is innocent too. They are a joke. They portray heavily slanted and biased shows. On June 14, 1989, Patricia Wright and her 7-year-old son, Alfey, were riding in a car driven by family friend Lawrence Slaughter. (even though hes married and has a baby) Who does that?!! Watching Reasonable Doubt right now hope they also find that she did it. All of them returned without a DNA analysis because they contained no root material. The trial was taking so much of my time. Ironically its you who is basing your view on second-hand information, as you were not in court. Rorrer is as guilty as OJ Simpson. Trash-talking ex. Catherine are you sure your names not Karen? Why? Shes still guilty, with her hands did it or not, in regard to baby Alex. Have you watched any of the documentaries Ive mentioned? Narcissistic and violent tendencies are very common. Or did they? Caledonia County Deputy State's Attorney Kirk Williams read a letter from the Jenkins family to the court during the hearing. Patricia Giddings pleads not guilty There was a blood-stained fingernail and hair found on the victims body, and even though (in Keith Morrisons Dateline documentary) the Asst. Its an opinion learnt from a well-researched book, from documentaries which show and mention a great deal of facts and evidence which was never brought up at her trial. If you so dearly feel the need to occupy the high ground in debate or an argument, have the decency to quote accurately. If her husband was going to do that Im sure he wouldve done it in a totally different way! At the time of the killings, police said that there had been domestic problems in the family and that they were exploring all possible motives for the slayings. (A good point. The woman who was showing the home alleged that Patricia was involved in the theft. Marsicovetere cited studies done by several doctors during pretrial proceedings, saying that they determined Patricia Prue suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder and might suffer from dissociative identity disorder as well. Was Amina Said Mother Patricia Owens Said Charged With Murder? On Aug. 31, 2011, at 11 a.m., Wrights family, the Action Committee for Women in Prison, and the FACTS community and supporters gathered in front of Gov. Women murder for all kinds of reasons, but the simple facts come down to this.there was physical evidence, the bullet wound matched that of the gun Pat owned, the hairs were Pats and at both scenes, and she had no alibi and she had lied to try and come up with one.and lets not forget the damning words she spoke to her 18 month old daughter that the officer had the common sense to document. Phone records confirmed Patricia placed the earlier call from North Carolina, not Pennsylvania. In a surprise move, Said testified on Monday. She was born on Jan. 24, 1964, in eastern Pennsylvania and moved back and forth between there and Davidson County, North Carolina. She didnt need to have owned all the guns she ever used, nor to have owned the gun she in fact used. Andy did end up moving to Colorado with her and the last time I checked, they were still together. I fail to see exactly why someone cant have an opinion which he/she sees as fact. False. He was sentenced Said to life in prison without the possibility of parole. They also think she killed her first hubby Larry Ford as well. Rorrer killed these two people in cold blood and the jury got it right! Well, at least you managed some sense there when you say that, especially when you take into account the amount of evidence and witnesses which were withheld from the Defence and what appears to be a clear case of evidence-tampering. The only record of a call from Patricia to the Katrinak household was on 12/7/94. She led a normal life, with a job as an elevator operator at the Art Institute of Pittsburgh, until 1984, when her religious vision occurred. You took my life. As to blood splatter, at a far enough distance, a .22 isnt going to leave much blood splatter, and there probably wont be an exit wound, it will just bounce around the skull, and you dont have to make someone bleed to beat them, and several months in the elements is plenty of time to wash away some evidence as well, although luckily not all. This article is little more than fiction. Black said she was glad Said took the witness stand, giving her the chance to poke holes in his story, exposing him to everyone who has been watching this case. Well of course it is, so you overstated your opinion as though you know it to be fact, thus the jury and others were wrong; ironic because youre quick to complain that others are much to sure of *their* opinion shes guilty. During the tour Alfey was able to slip away into a room that was made for a little boy. 2023 NYP Holdings, Inc. 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Proven in court and sentence awarded!!! They need to test that hair from Joanns hand and also that broken fingernail. Especially mice! Your email address will not be published. I believe the answer to your question is in my comment above. That poor child who grew up with no mom for absolutely no reason. Why would it be an irony for a person to express his opinion? Its definitely getting rougher every day, Andrew told the Morning Call. No explanation given. Interesting points thanks for writing in (and, yikes, those poor deer that starve to death). Of course, if he had info that only the perp would know Admission has long since been disregarded without corroborative evidence. For one thing, her mother never asked Sandra Ireland to hide the gun, and she retrieved it on the way home the next day she worked as a bus driver and couldnt take it with her to school. Help, the younger sister could be heard crying on a 911 recording. She hadn't lived long enough.". Not everything is a conspiracy. Jenkins at one time had hired Allen Prue to plow her driveway. Patricias defenders also say Andrew Katrinak staged the scene at his house by prying the door and cutting the phone line. At 17, Patricia dropped out of high school and married landscaper Gary Gabard. Go somewhere else where your asserted expertise will be professionally tested and you wont be so frustrated and insulting about those who disagree (with your expertise and opinion). You are absolutely right. Alfey liked to look at model homes, so they decided to stop by an open house that was located at 13810 Redberry St. in Moreno Valley, California. The girls mother, Patricia Said, fled with both girls in the week before their killings because she was in great fear of her life, police said. This is the most ridiculous take ever! Andrew also stated that when Pat called and Joann answered she had instructed her not to call again because they were married and they were happy. Locked up. Clive Swift: Keeping Up Appearances star dies Thats because they knew it was a stretch to make anyone believe she would still be so enraged a week and a day later that she jumped into a van and drove 550 miles to kill a woman and baby she never met. Before receiving her final sentence, Patricia Prue, 35, of Waterford addressed the court saying that her biggest regret was not seeking help for her mental health issues earlier. Clifford Freeman, since you are already at the top of the list of deluded people not much room left for anyone with an oversized ego such as you apparently have!! She should have received the death penalty imo. The obvious, if moot, response to this is to observe that her conviction wasnt based on inaccurate documentaries but on trial. The case was eventually abandoned. True, Andrew would have no way to acquire and plant Patricias blond hair there because it wasnt that color when she knew him. Patricia Owens called her ex-husband Yaser Said the devil for allegedly murdering their two daughters at his trial in Dallas on Aug. 4, 2022. Irelands husband buried it in the yard because he didnt feel comfortable with a firearm inside, she said. They were there in the winter months in which the bodies would have been frozen most of the time. Thank you and well said. Patricia defaulted on her mortgage and then returned to North Carolina, where she eventually moved in with a boyfriend named Brian Ward. It was winter which are cold in PA and would slow down decomposition and minimize insect activity although you are correct about the rodentswhy were there none? I attack only those whove considered themselves not only judges on this case, but go on to vent their spleen aimed at a person who in my opinion is innocent of this crime, based on all Ive read and watched without fear of retaliation If they so freely attack someone in the most vicious way, why should they be off limits? Patricia Wrights brother, Larry Wright, 47, and her neighbor, Janet Marcelin, 55, both testified that Patricia Wright and Lawrence Slaughter committed the murder but recanted their testimony after Patricia was sentenced to life without possibility of parole. ), And in another bombshell, Joanns good friend Karen Devine said Joann planned to leave Andrew after the holidays. They depict scenes which are pure speculation or exaggeration or present scenes, which in fact were only theories mentioned at her trial. The media love the femme fatale., FBI lab blunder. 'He's going to be in a better place': Florida mom charged with the He wanted to move to Colorado and she was against it.. I also communicated with Patricia via email to get her input on some matters. 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