44-N Links. There have been several sightings of mountain lions in New Hampshire recently. Patrick Tate: I've had hunters hang deer carcasses forbidding wildlife entries. Caller: Well I think Patrick I recognized your name. Caller: I cannot recall or see the tail in my in my image of it. I've had a number of people call up and say I found a scout in the woods and I want it DNA identified. Patrick Tate: I've from all the situations I've read and learned about wildlife. Its impossible to say, but I think the odds are pretty good that some of these sightings are legit. That's pretty elaborate. Just one quick point I think I think when we we talk about these conspiracy theories the real story is that fish and game is an agency that that is short on budget and staff. Infinite Scroll Enabled. Erler is a senior naturalist at the Squam Lakes Natural Science Center in Holderness. Peter Biello: Well hey Rob. It's listed as population of least concern. Thanks also to Rick van de Poll naturalist and founder of ecosystem management consultants of New England and Sam Evans Brown host of an HP podcast outside in about the natural world and how we use it.
Mountain Lion in New Hampshire? - Bowsite.com So here in New Hampshire when a person turns in something that the Department believes is possible mountain lion and believes it should be investigated further. I don't know if she still is. You know I think it's there's a lady Holly Ernst out in California who has done a lot of the genotyping of mountain lions in Northern California the ones that are of course most people have heard about taking down hikers bikers etc. Any sense of of whether or not mountain lions are sort of wary of more population dense areas like like the one he was describing Rick. Since 1917, Lions clubs have offered people the opportunity to give something back to their communities. Sort of dropped onto the SD card of a camera he'd set up out in the wild. So there's even debate about that very subject. Or years or so. Mountain lions live in the state. Sam Evans-Brown: Well this might be a good moment to talk about hoaxes. Let's talk to Mike in Webster. BRADFORD, N.H. - All that snow in parts of the Northeast has more than just kids jumping for winter joy. It's good to talk to you. And trying to figure out the little pieces to identify him so I bring up the names the differences but the appearances can be confusing for some. NHPR is nonprofit and independent.
Monadnock Ledger-Transcript - Claims of mountain lions spread However, dispersing western mountain lions have left evidence as close as Connecticut, Massachusetts and New York. Its closest living relative is the cheetah. Here it is. Now again I don't know that there's anything to that. There's never, ever, ever, ever been a documented case of a black mountain lion.
So for me as a person who's had the Bobcats right off my grits similar carries sticks to a bobcat The Long Tail obviously very different but those facial markings were overlapping for me. Share. I think as Pat was saying you know 35 to 50 pounds on a male be reasonable range whereas mountain lions you're up to 100 110 maybe even 130 pounds on a big male. And you know all that. Rick your thoughts. Well Is DNA the most reliable means we have of identifying whether or not what we saw is actually a mountain lion. He studied Politics and Spanish at Bates College, and before reporting was variously employed as a Spanish teacher, farmer, bicycle mechanic, ski coach, research assistant, a wilderness trip leader and a technical supporter. Were there any differences between these two that we could have noticed right off. Patrick Tate: I would say well when social media first started they picked up the hoaxes became much more prevalent in the last four or five years hoaxes have died down completely. So we tossed these terms around but really the term subspecies has been sort of redefined in our lifetimes. Thanks for calling. So they're not afraid of humans and they'll show up like a regular housecat. I just don't understand the mechanism for how that would happen. John is calling from Bennington. So hey, just me shooting from the hip, maybe there are a couple mountain lions skulking about. Sam Evans-Brown: Well and I think and the last takeaway here is everyone I think probably agrees that any possible sightings that have been seen. We live around Cold Springs Campground and it was undeniably a mountain lion. Peter Biello: Mm hmm. Peter Biello: They make great mascots at least. Really appreciate it. Patrick Tate: Well I've never seen an Easter cougar so I can't say when I've handled these 10 cougars and whatnot. There wasn't a distinct subspecies the North American mountain lion is all is all one species and then you can find a genetically distinct South American subspecies. Do we have native species that could have exhibited this type of behavior leaving leaving a deer carcass up in a tree. Less than a year later I found a scat on the swamp range and I was working at the time with a fellow at the Michigan wildlife habitat Federation. There have been several sightings of mountain lions in New Hampshire recently. Information online ad an age student loans dawg. DNA from scat or from fur, a clear track that is confirmed by an expert, or a photo that clearly shows a mountain lion. Contact the Wildlife Division at (603) 271-2461 or wildlife@wildlife.nh.gov to request an observation report form. Pat ruse and he was sampling doing DNA samples from cats in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. So so it is possible in Maine to still to to to have one but you have to be sort of professional handler as it were. Fish and Game then deny the evidence. Mountain Lions in New Hampshire-Fact or Fiction. Rick van de Poll: Well the mountain lion of course has been sort of an enigma in the wildlife suite for years and years. So what those ranges. When they were landing or taking off and it seems like it's been there for like. and territorial animals are much more inclined to create a problem with passer bys than dispersing animals in fact I'd be totally shocked if a dispersal would encounter with a human purposefully unless they had already had some type of training to do so. We rely on readers like you to support the local, national, and international coverage on this website. I saw that had this giant the bobcat had this giant sweeping which is John Bobcat don't have big sweeping tails.
Peter Biello: Sam I wanted to ask you a little bit about that first and then turn to Patrick Tate efficient game. Patrick Tate New Hampshire Fish and Game Wildlife Biologist thanks very much for being here this morning really appreciate it. So it's there was no question in my mind. Peter Biello: This is NHK PR Good morning and HP are summer car raffle is back and now's the time to get your early bird tickets. It is also known as cougar, panther, mountain lion, and puma, though catamount is the preferred regional vernacular. Peter Biello: So let's say Rick that it was confirmed that there that there are mountain lines here in New Hampshire. Have a photo. So I did a bunch of research and all the documentation I found was there art are not any pieces of DNA of Eastern online. We want answers. HOLDERNESS, N.H. (AP) Two of the known mountain lions in New Hampshire have spent their 15 years in close proximity to humans. And here we're talking about in this situation we're talking about it migrated from the West. PublishedNovember 16, 2018 at 6:16 AM EST. Course like Sue said you have to see it and it's not always that visible. The species that once inhabited the Northeast, known as the eastern mountain lion, is now extinct. Do you get a lot of these these these things that end up being hoaxes. Peter Biello: Today on the program Patrick Tate New Hampshire Fish and Game Wildlife biologist and far better project leader Sam Evans Brown host of an HP podcast outside in which is about the natural world and how we use it. Does not test random Scouts. If you missed part of today's program listen to the exchange. But you won't find evidence of their existence in paw prints in the snow or a deer carcass in a tree. Numerous scat and fur specimens have been turned in as part of mountain lion report investigations; DNA identification has shown these submitted samples to be from domestic dog, coyote, bobcat andraccoon. New Hampshire Public Radio | They're just moving around freely. Okay. Peter Biello: Nice to be here. So Michael follows with the question. Mountain Lions are a mythical creature in New Hampshire with strong feelings on both sides of the question: are there Mountain Lions in New Hampshire? So Pat you field a lot of calls about people seeing or reportedly seeing mountain lions. By, March 2023 Fund Drive Rules and Regulations, Persons with disabilities who need assistance accessing NHPR's FCC public files, please contact us at publicfile@nhpr.org. The females disperse a shorter range and once they find a vacant home range they stay in that location and live there. The exchange is a production of New Hampshire Public Radio. Patrick Tate: Okay. Deer Bear Moose Wolves Fisher Mountain Lions. I mean they're a survivor. What gets confusing is when you have a large adult animal and a smaller juvenile animal of a different species you can now step start beginning talking about overlapping body weights and sizes. Peter Biello: Well yeah. The second one was not only fresh but when I actually put my hand on it it was you know smelled like cat and I it's there's no denying a fresh mountain lions get if you can tell it every story that KOAT. You saw what you saw. John. So. I'm Peter Biello in for Laura NOI. I saw the tail end of a literally from behind the shoulder The Long Tail mountain lion crossing the highway going from Password to often Village downtown. Support for an age PR comes from you our listeners. And so I just wanted to share my share my experience with you guys and it was pretty awesome to see if you get to see one albeit it was in the brush. Sam Evans-Brown: What he would have stopped as well I think is way way that the reason that mountain lion kept moving is because he wasn't finding anybody. First off if the standard for an agency to go forward with the public and put out a press release that them outlines here their believers are going to say I told you they'd been here the whole time. I've seen him in the woods and that was not a bobcat but I was looking at. They used to roam the entire continent, but have become extinct in most US states. If you go on YouTube and search mount lion Pat you can see people patent their hundred pound kiddie like its regular mascot cat. Mountain lions can be found throughout Arizona, and data suggests the populations are not only stable, but growing. John Holt's ideas were at first dismissed but he refused to be silent. But you won't find evidence of their existence in paw prints in the snow or a deer carcass in a tree. So give us a call now. Thanks for taking my call. We send out DNA samples to the U.S. Forest Service Rocky Mountain Research Station. So what counts as verifiable evidence? Caller: Are probably. Patrick Tate: Martin Like what about Panther Panther saying animals same animal and like a bit of trivia Guinness Book of World Records says the animal with the most names is in English alone they're supposedly 40 names for Mount lion. Caller: Yeah I hadn't experienced blastoff fall so this was around September and I was driving from Webster into Concord on Horse Hill Road and anybody in the area would know I was right near the Red Barn and all of a sudden this animal jumps out of the woods and it bounded across the road in about two two giant leaps and stopped in the field just on the other side. They kill big animals. And it was unmistakable. Sam. So for our scientists to do the lumping and whatnot. Reviewing the evidence, the U.S. Why are there so many false positives? Peter Biello: So a little bit of nostalgia maybe for it for a better world embodied in the mountain lion. Well I can't tell you what you saw. Caller: I do. So there is definitely no downward pressure by anyone. Listeners give us a call if you'd like. But Absence of Evidence Is Not Evidence of Absence, Right? And a lot of people around the county airport have seen a lot of pilots coming in said they saw huge. Sam Evans-Brown: Pretty well I was going to say it is nice to hear about how to identify the facial markings but probably I'd being a to identify the tracks is probably the more useful useful tool that one can have in their tool box. I was a Bobcat we saw it and I have a picture of it. So. There's always been physical evidence to prove those situations like hair or fur scat hair prints pictures of the animal print scat hair. Can you tell us about that story. That's what we're seeing is dispersing mountain lions from the West who are just making their way through. So so in 2011 a mountain lion was killed in a car accident in Connecticut a car hit a mountain lion and killed it. But also I think it proves the opposite point which is that sometimes they're pretty secretive because all the way from Minnesota where the where was the first time was picked up on a game camera to New York. And as the biologist who's gonna stand on this and if I'm going to say this is a proven picture I need to be able to stand on it so soundly and have the evidence so I going to go through it with a fine tooth comb kept picking pieces apart trying to answer these pieces. 10 things to do in NH this weekend: Dartmouth Dance, Hamilton De Holanda & more, Turkish restaurant in the Upper Valley aims to help those affected by recent earthquakes, RFK Jr. tells NH crowd hes considering a presidential run, Epping woman pleads guilty to threatening Michigan election official in 2020. Mountain Lion report and as a biologist for the state that's a situation where if he said to me what did I see. What do you think that. So this whole illegal pet trade black market pro trade thing does does exist in a situation like that can happen. Your support makes this news available to everyone. They're very loyal to what the handler which makes them very dangerous to everyone else.
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