what I can tell you is that, it appears to be from the WW2 period with the cropped helmet lugs, the markings I've not seen. Few military helmets that have ever been manufactured are as iconic as the Brodie helmet. He did work there before the war but we are not sure if he held that position pre-war. dailyinfo[26]=' Chaplain 4th Class The Rev. So. Depots simply would repaint helmets where the paint had lost its anti-reflective properties with an extremely heavy gravel finish. Welcome to the Treasure Bunker Forum - Please feel free to join and share your knowledge, with our growing data base of collectors and historians, both new and advanced. They also have a similar liner and chinstrap. Failing this, simply search on this forum under Brodie and you should find a wealth of information etc. dailyinfo[19]=' 9228 Corporal George F. PARRY 2nd Bn. dailyinfo[6]=' 345190 Sapper Forrest A. KNOWLES Canadian Signal Corps who died 06/03/1921 REIDS MILLS CEMETERY Canada ' //-->, By As a result, it was estimated that the M1 had saved the lives of approximately 70,000 men between the outbreak of the war in late 1941 and its conclusion in the autumn of 1945. // Stop Define Variables for days of the month M42 winter camo. Brodie helmets - How to identify By depaor01 4 January , 2013 in Uniforms,Cap Badges and Insignia depaor01 Old Sweats 2.2k Location:Dublin, Ireland Posted 4 January , 2013 Could somebody post a beginner's guide to what exactly a Brodie helmet is, if there was any other type of British helmet in WWI, and how they differed from WW2? Royal Warwickshire Regiment who died 12/03/1918 ST. Royal Horse Artillery who died 21/02/1917 GUARDS CEMETERY, COMBLES France ' else { document.write(fontstart+"No major events today"+fontend); } June 9, 2018 in WW1 US AEF Unit Flashed Brodie Combat Helmet & Liner - $612.65. Clear editor. A few have turned up with manufacture marks similar to those found on British shells A number of firms made P17s for the U.S. Military. The result in 1940 was the M1, which was effectively an altered version of the M1917. Your previous content has been restored. HEAT STAMP 626A. View detail. In August 1915 he acquired a patent for a steel helmet design of his own, one which could be produced from a single sheet of steel pressed into the first basic Brodie helmet. dailyinfo[27]=' 5778 Private William CUMMINGS 6th Bn. The helmet was painted a camouflage mix of green, blue and orange, though a variety of alternative colours were also introduced for use in different theatres. E.G.Budd. The bail holder is secured to the helmets skirt with a steel harness rivet. The steel for the M1917 helmets was rolled by the American Sheet and Tin Plate Co and were stamped with a Heat or Lot code, The helmet liners were made by 10 Shoe Manufacturing Company's, the shells and liners would be delivered to the. Leatherwear Co of America - Brooklyn - New York. worked in or simply that he worked in a department in a parliamentary house, it's speculative at best I know ?. While British and American helmets may be painted similar colors the finishes on the two type of helmet differ. dailyinfo[10]=' 14780 Member Ida Styles HUGHES (Oxford) Womens Royal Air Force who died 10/03/1919 OXFORD (ROSE HILL) CEMETERY United Kingdom ' A heat stamp of 305B on a McCord manufactured helmet. April 2, 2014 in ww1, field, identification, tag, a e wilson, 10th, ambulance. This was particularly the case when it came to trench warfare where shrapnel and debris rained down on soldiers heads from above. accross the pond,? Highland Light Infantry who died 19/03/1915 LE TOURET MEMORIAL France ' Frank Harrison EDINGER Army Chaplains Department who died 26/02/1918 HOLLYBROOK MEMORIAL, SOUTHAMPTON United Kingdom ' By 1916, Brodie helmet . document.write; Though, my opinion is that the helmet is an American M1917. Unfortunately, your registration has been declined by the auctioneer. M16 LW transitional helmet. Are there any markings on the helmet shell - between a rivet and the brim usually? dailyinfo[18]=' 6422 Private Charlie GILBERT 4th Coy. G. Budd Manufacturing Co. ), ( ZJ- Marks belong to Columbian Enamelling & Stamping Co. ). The M1 offered exceptional protection. 2nd Bn. After the war he was, as prior stated, he held a very high position and worked in surveying land and buildings for military purposes, including Goonhilly which was his most famous and he even chose that name. Your link has been automatically embedded. Whether it be a small antique shop, militaria show or even an online auction. Your previous content has been restored. . var month=mydate.getMonth()+1 Hello Leon. dailyinfo[3]=' 45 Gunner HAZURA SINGH 31st Mountain Battery Indian Mountain Artillery who died 03/03/1920 TEHRAN MEMORIAL Iranm ' It also depends on where the helmet came from, are you inthe US? First questions and then the story. Royal Navy who died 15/03/1917 CHATHAM NAVAL MEMORIAL United Kingdom ' Royal Welsh Fusiliers who died 11/03/1915 FAUQUISSART MILITARY CEMETERY, LAVENTIE France ' A later study at the end of the Second World War would show that approximately 54% of bullets which hit the M1 of servicemen in Europe and the Pacific failed to penetrate the helmet. Royal Air Force who died 24/02/1919 LINCOLN (NEWPORT) CEMETERY United Kingdom ' and 34th Coy. In WW1 Allies: Great Britain, France, USA, etc 1914 - 1918, In Polish Armed Forces - Second Republic (Siy Zbrojne II Rzeczypospolitej Polskiej) 1918-1939, blue brodie helmet(or not) identification, Advice on purchasing a British Military MKII Helmet. Re: Help Identifying Brodie Helmet A post 1939 dated British Mk2, have a look around the chin strap lugs for a date/maker name. Kings Royal Rifle Corps who died 02/03/1915 YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL Belgium ' You can post now and register later. Identifying a Mk.1* British Civil Defence Brodie. SEVER CEMETERY EXTENSION, ROUEN France ' The Brodie helmet is a steel combat helmet designed and patented in London in 1915 by Latvian inventor John Leopold Brodie (Latvian: Leopolds Janno Braude).A modified form of it became the Helmet, Steel, Mark I in Britain and the M1917 Helmet in the US. dailyinfo[14]=' 16511 Private Albert COLEMAN "D" Coy. It's definitely a British Mk I helmet. Yet its use did not stop there. Royal Warwickshire Regiment who died 12/03/1918 ST. I have had a good look at your helmet again and managed to find another one to compare,This is an American, Here is a British made helmet from the same period, look at the rim joint how clean the joint is put together, now take a look at the rim joints. They were produced Nov.1940 thru May 1941. Original WWII British Brodie Steel Helmet in OD Green- WW2 Dated $114.95 400 sold ORIGINAL WWII BRITISH / CANADIAN 1941 HELMET $49.88 $18.00 shipping WW2 Canadian Dispatch Rider Helmet $149.00 0 bids $22.80 shipping 5d 17h Antique World War 2 British Brodie Helmet WW2 $44.00 0 bids $13.30 shipping 3d 11h or Best Offer dailyinfo[20]=' 10259 Private Charles BUCHANAN 1st Bn. He was in his early forties when the war broke out and he turned his attentions to developing a military helmet along the lines that the French had just produced with the Adrian helmet. The MK 1 Brodie helmets are made from original MK2 steel shells have stripped out liner, chinstrap hangers and repainted the shell in the correct WW1 wartime paint then fixed in a 100% accurate reproduction. In the photo it looks like it could be surface rust? dailyinfo[19]=' 9228 Corporal George F. PARRY 2nd Bn. BASICALLY A DESCRIPTION OF HOW THE WW1 MKI BRODIE EVOLVED INTO THE WW2 MK2 STEEL HELMET,VIA THE INTER WAR MK1* VERSION..AND HOW TO TELL THEM APART.EACH HELMET WILL ALSO HAVE ITS INDIVIDUAL. WW2 British Army Staff Officers Cap and Collar Tabs. if it is red underneathit could have been. The series of number which follow the manufacture mark is a heating lot number used by the factory in the manufacturing process. First issued in 1915, The M-15's distinct shape and effectiveness on the battlefield paved way for future . Yes would be very interested to see the other documents, menu and any other informationyou have as these might help with identifying the letters on the helmet. Not sure why there's a hole in the rim. The real beardy types, anoraks and train spotters would only consider the type A and B as true Brodies. var fontend = '' As for suppliers I found another list with a few more names that were missing from Scott's list. The chinstrap was secured directly to the helmet brim and the liner was held into the skull with a single rivet on the top. The doughnut was added for the wearers comfort. It is very hard to tell from the photo. Yet more often than not the seller has no idea if the helmet is actually of British or American manufacture, and the buyer has no idea either. Was wondering if anyone could give some more info on it. 3rd Bn. (Salonika) Territorial Force Nursing Service who died 01/03/1918 KNOWLE (SS. Royal Air Force who died 24/02/1919 LINCOLN (NEWPORT) CEMETERY United Kingdom ' Powered by Invision Community, US WW1 and WW2 Brodie Helmets and Maker Stamps. In 1940 a Parliamentary Home Guard unit "The Palace of Westminster Company" was established, consisting of around one hundred Members and staff of both Houses. Meccano I've not seen that stamp mark before , it's not WW1, and I don't think it is WW2, it could bepost war. Nearly three million of these M1917 helmets were produced by the time that the war ended in November 1918, clearly indicating the importance of an effective military helmet for the American armed forces going forward. I am trying to work out what the markings are/ what they mean. | Est. (Salonika) Territorial Force Nursing Service who died 01/03/1918 KNOWLE (SS. The ring didnt stay gone long and was brought back in 1917 no doubt to the joy of the average Tommy. Both helmets are non-magnetic. Specification. 1999-11-70-31 The Brodie design featured a brim 2in (5cm) wide, which protected the head and shoulders from above. document.write; UK 155428944961. The first letters representthe company who pressed the helmet. The front is marked in original period paint: Mac Kay C.WU The paint is 100% original. NPB. The brim is quite shallow in width & the lining system comprises a padding fixed to the crown comprising layers of felt, lint, and cotton wool. Manufacturing Co - Philadelphia - Pennsylvania. The British cleverly dealt with this problem by issuing their men with a Hessian cloth cover. He was the head ofthe South-West ministry of publics works. More innovatively the steel cap was also used as a multi-purpose device by American soldiers during the Second World War. 100% refund policy on all items returned within 30 days. dailyinfo[31]=' 420628 Sapper William Bayne YOUNG 63rd Field Coy. The shape of the helmet was also somewhat similar to the Brodie in that it was based around a circular steel cap which provided maximum protection to the top of the head, with the rim protecting the ears and upper face. However, he has recently discovered that apparently all Brodie and Mk.I helmets were pressed by Joseph Sankey and Sons, so the the initials simply indicate the steel supplier. I'm sorry I could not find a post 1916 stamp (see below for two examples of post Aug 1916 stamps.